Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    https://www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 11 820

  • Nobby1304
    Nobby1304  1 hours back

    There are many Jokers in this world!

    • Laff Soap
      Laff Soap  1 hours back

      Wooow he got almost everything right before the premiere

      • CaseyK
        CaseyK  3 hours back

        And another one gone and another one gone, another theory bites the dust

        • ROBZTA M
          ROBZTA M  4 hours back

          I remember when I first watched the 1973 film Godspell it made me feel very uncomfortable, The Joker makes me feel the same way, in both films the main character dresses like a clown.

          • Avishag Kelhamer
            Avishag Kelhamer  6 hours back

            SPOILER: well you were kinda right with the relationship between Arthur and that woman was all in his mind so you get points for that yay matpat:)

            • Preetham R
              Preetham R  7 hours back

              U were right... U were right

              • OG_louD
                OG_louD  7 hours back

                imagine if it released back in 2016 during the killer clown scare

                • Charly Tsu
                  Charly Tsu  7 hours back

                  This is a solid theory. The origin of the joker is based on the idea but Arthur is not the real joker

                  • Chris Sheilds
                    Chris Sheilds  7 hours back

                    I have just seen the film, and thought that this film is 90% one man's dillusion......it is not realisitic

                    • KonsciousKoonKiller 22
                      KonsciousKoonKiller 22  8 hours back

                      He called it lmao

                      • KonsciousKoonKiller 22
                        KonsciousKoonKiller 22  8 hours back

                        Lol

                        • Knight
                          Knight  9 hours back

                          Spoiler alert.



                          For me, killing the other clown guy, the one that gave him the gun, or that he exists as the Joker. This is visible in the midget's reaction, proving the killing to be real. I believe pretty much everything besides the one talkshow scene in the beginning and the scenes with the black woman are real.

                          • Yaz0mb1e
                            Yaz0mb1e  9 hours back

                            Yeah this video got it all wrong.

                            • Captain Knuckles
                              Captain Knuckles  9 hours back

                              Correct me if I'm wrong but did u just say that the illness could be hereditary from his stepmother?

                              Also variable handwriting is because of Arthur switching hands when writing wich can be seen during the scene where he writes this exact note "They expect you to behave as if you dont", the more scribbly and childlish handwriting is written with his (assuming he not Ambidextrous) non-dominant hand

                              • Derp Kerblerp
                                Derp Kerblerp  10 hours back

                                I wish my handwriting was that tidy

                                • J. Kerim S
                                  J. Kerim S  10 hours back

                                  Sudden Turkish Language attack on 6.23!!
                                  p.s.As a bilingual I didn't notice the writing in 6.23 was Turkish until my second viewing

                                  • Tharindu Dissanayake
                                    Tharindu Dissanayake  14 hours back

                                    Superb Movie ❤ Enjoy this too: https://youtu.be/0t95VrQAgf8

                                    • Kenneth gaming
                                      Kenneth gaming  14 hours back

                                      Stop lying which yo OMG hes not the real joker how is he not the real joker but it's already in the theaters I just watch it it is intense

                                      • celow banks
                                        celow banks  14 hours back

                                        Yeah schizophrenia is not the problem every one in the 🌎 being fucking assholes is

                                        • Nelson Camacho Tirado
                                          Nelson Camacho Tirado  15 hours back

                                          Sorry, but this prediction was wrong.

                                          • Mohammed Afraaz
                                            Mohammed Afraaz  15 hours back

                                            Is a Peaky Blinders theory coming up anytime soon?

                                            • LittleBilly69
                                              LittleBilly69  16 hours back

                                              Every time you said either one thing is happening or another thing is happening it was two things that ended up happening

                                              • Hrothgrar
                                                Hrothgrar  17 hours back

                                                I would consider a potential for Schizoaffective disorder rather than schizophrenia considering the prevalence of both manic and depressive symptoms. They increased along at the same rate as his psychosis so it seems they are linked. Also, as is obvious, antisocial personality disorder as he progresses and states that he thought he should feel remorse for killing those men but he didn't. He states this while talking to the orderly in the medical records department at the State Hospital.

                                                • Neoxtee
                                                  Neoxtee  17 hours back

                                                  *Cough cough* he’s adopted *cough*

                                                  • TLDJ
                                                    TLDJ  19 hours back

                                                    Penny??? Isn’t??? Arthurs??? Mom???

                                                    So how can it be genetic

                                                    Unless that whole adoption/letters from Wayne spiel was a hallucination too???

                                                    • Trilion International
                                                      Trilion International  20 hours back

                                                      After watching the movie..I can say well done 99% on point predicted

                                                      • BannokCheeks
                                                        BannokCheeks  22 hours back

                                                        But during the movie he has flash backs of what was real and what wasn’t. Bringing him to the edge to put out his fantasy thus creating the joker when he goes on tv.

                                                        • ZDM Gordon
                                                          ZDM Gordon  22 hours back

                                                          Isnt it explained in the film that he laughs due to a severe tick?

                                                          • Mr Zornig
                                                            Mr Zornig  23 hours back

                                                            6:23
                                                            AS BAYRAKLARI ASS

                                                            • Domenico
                                                              Domenico  23 hours back

                                                              Your analysis of his psychiatric status is terrible. Of course, you are not a doctor, but that was just lazy and wrong. You cannot possibly simplify and make up a diagnosis like that.

                                                              • G Varela
                                                                G Varela  24 hours back

                                                                I had a feeling the entire movie was in his head from the start. He’s trying to convince himself that he’s the reason for Batman’s creation and not the other way around.

                                                                The entire movie seemed like Joker was telling a story about HIMSELF but drastically dumbed down the evil shit to portray himself as more good. Hopefully they show us how he really is by starting the movie off with the ending of the first end. He looked a lot more sinister when he told the doctor she wouldn’t get the joke

                                                                • Marushia Dark
                                                                  Marushia Dark  1 days back

                                                                  This theory was surprisingly spot-on in the general sense, though some of the details were off.

                                                                  • Akhshat Sharma
                                                                    Akhshat Sharma  1 days back

                                                                    Your interpretation of American Psycho is Wrong. It is a post-modern Critique of Late Capitalism.

                                                                    • Polybotes
                                                                      Polybotes  1 days back

                                                                      The delusions stop a little after his medicine dries up implying the medication was what was cousing them, on top of that after they dry up is wuen its shown they are delusions. He also had split personalitys one is arther, unable to control his laphter with a slumped akward stance and right handed with light handwriting and the other is Joker, confident stance, left handed, dark handwriting and seems to fully control his laphter. You can see him switch throughout the movie as he switches hands and handwriting to write, and arther writes about how much his life sucks and Joker makes jokes about it for example arther writes in light handwriting ranting about his job or something and you see underneath in jokers darker handwriting "i just hope my death makes more cents then my life" you can also catch parts of arther mentioning someing about HIM taking over in his Journal. By the end joker or as arther puts it HIM has pretty much taken over, if you want to overthink it at the end the blood on arthers feet could be a symble of arther being dead. Although that last bit is english teacher overthinking and its just the blood from his social worker but im throwing it out there anyways

                                                                      • Yaja Kump
                                                                        Yaja Kump  1 days back

                                                                        15:00 that thing almost killed me....

                                                                        • Fernando The Self-Appointed Knight

                                                                          Well just watched 6 minutes of the video and now i know i habe schizophrenia

                                                                          • DaRiUs black
                                                                            DaRiUs black  1 days back

                                                                            na3n din rabek ma3ach t3aYET

                                                                            • Onu Felix
                                                                              Onu Felix  2 days back

                                                                              the accuracy

                                                                              • KiDD ViDD
                                                                                KiDD ViDD  2 days back

                                                                                You keep mentioning "hereditary"... Joker was an orphan if you paid attn to the movie

                                                                                • Madhouse Beatz
                                                                                  Madhouse Beatz  2 days back

                                                                                  So glad I watched the movie before I watched this video

                                                                                  • lazelda007
                                                                                    lazelda007  2 days back

                                                                                    dude, you purposely deceived yourself by making this theory based off on the trailers of the movie instead of the final product.

                                                                                    • jose ramos
                                                                                      jose ramos  2 days back

                                                                                      You CALLED IT... WOW

                                                                                      • Cashden Clayton
                                                                                        Cashden Clayton  2 days back

                                                                                        Nope
                                                                                        See mat this is why you can't just make a movie based on trailers because about 60% to 70% of what you say loses all value after the movie drops
                                                                                        And don't give the BS that this is Therory
                                                                                        Well
                                                                                        Quit presenting it like isn't thats called hypocrisy.

                                                                                        • Jkbro223 Johnson
                                                                                          Jkbro223 Johnson  2 days back

                                                                                          Everything he thinks that will happen it somewhat right but he gets it wrong

                                                                                          • Jackaree10
                                                                                            Jackaree10  2 days back

                                                                                            Actually, in the comic The killing Joke, it is revealed that his name is Arthur Fleck

                                                                                            • Morg2000
                                                                                              Morg2000  2 days back

                                                                                              I’m very happy this prediction was wrong

                                                                                            • Lucas Arnquist
                                                                                              Lucas Arnquist  2 days back

                                                                                              This is the kind of shit that ruins a great movie

                                                                                              • Batman
                                                                                                Batman  2 days back

                                                                                                The joker is very real. The fake scenes were deliberately shown.