Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?locations=CN
    [2] https://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Documents/TopTenPaxMarkets_graph.pdf
    [3] https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3024610/you-can-buy-russias-putin-pitches-su-57-stealth-jets
    [4] https://skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
    [5] https://s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/annual/2019/Boeing-2018AR-Final.pdf
    [6] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/boeing-stock-all-time-high-on-china-demand-production-acceleration.html
    [7] https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-AIRPLANE/010091341G7/index.html
    [8] https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/283437/what-routes-does-the-boeing-737-max-8-fly/
    [9] https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
    [11] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/business/china-boeing.html
    [12] https://www.apnews.com/88d5235d2107400680d8b0870d30d218
    [13] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/02/11/ceo-americas-biggest-exporter-manufacturing-america-doing-business/
    [14] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/airbus-is-said-to-seal-long-awaited-aircraft-order-from-china
    [15] https://www.mhi.com/news/story/190625.html
    [16] https://ukranews.com/en/news/612803-antonov-planning-to-resume-production-of-an-148-an-158-and-an-178-planes-in-2019
    [17] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/china-comac-919-new-plane-ryanair/

Comments • 3 086

  • HarlockGlitch
    HarlockGlitch  26 minutes back

    We know you like economics and airlines. Video explaining the rise and fall of Thomas Cook!

    • I C
      I C  45 minutes back

      Don't underestimate the great dragon.
      China had been a world leader on many fronts many hundreds of years before the USA even existed.

      • pbilk1
        pbilk1  10 hours back

        Bombardier! Don't give up, where is your Canadian pride?

        • TiY
          TiY  11 hours back

          毫无廉耻的狐臭佬,狐臭佬的大杀器公司从未受到制裁。

          • Geo Jeff
            Geo Jeff  12 hours back

            China never cares about safety. China shut these planes down because of the trade war.
            No free country on earth should be doing business with any communists.
            This will come back to haunt the entire world soon.

            • Anna Castro
              Anna Castro  13 hours back

              Your voice from 2016 is very different dude

              • Truth BeTold
                Truth BeTold  16 hours back

                Boeing and airbus will be put out of business in China by China's own.

                • WhalesTasteGreat
                  WhalesTasteGreat  16 hours back

                  lol at China being a leader in aviation regulation. How ridiculously absurd.
                  I worked on some of the 737 NextGens that Southwest traded for, from Chinese Eastern Air, in order to meet Boeing's weird contract rules. They were the worst aircraft I've ever witnessed, and certainly not flightworthy at time of receipt.
                  Thousands of man hours were poured into each one to bring them back up to US / FAA standards... or any common sense standards. Pretty much all ACOs and ADs were stopped the minute they were handed off to Chinese entities... no maintenance had been done at all.

                  Some of the most noteworthy things I saw:
                  - Rats, not American rats either. One aircraft was infested with rats that had been living there for some unknown time. Everything had to be stripped because there was feces all over the electronics bay.

                  - Broken human waste lines. Waste from the forward lavatory runs down into the Electronics bay. The lines on one aircraft had broken seals and there was literally human shit juice all over the entire bay. Again, nobody knows how long this was going on. There is no maintenance tracking or records keeping in China, evidently.

                  - A 1" hole in the cockpit floor that appears to have been done by a soldering iron or heat gun. that somebody forgot about They installed the copilot seat over it and called it good. Bear in mind, the space underneath is not pressurized.

                  - An entire screw driver set left in the nose wheel well. There's some Junction boxes and windows to access pass-throughs for cabling up to the cockpit on the sides. In one of these, I found an entire screw driver set.
                  Finding tools in general was very common, but an entire screw driver set in a location where they could easily get stuck in wheel mechanism and/or junction box is shocking. I guess Chinese electricians use these wooden deals with a hole through it to run wire... found them all over the place. Wish I had kept some.

                  - There's a cable pass-through under the copilot's yoke with 2 bundles that pass under the center counsel over to pilot's side. Inside the pass through are 2 cable clamps. The Chinese had installed something and ran 3 wires under there without putting them in the cable clamps, or at least securing them away from the screws that hold those clamps down. On one of those lines, the screw had already ate through the insulation and was starting on the second. Who knows what happens when you short those wires to ground or eachother. Took me 2 hours to undo their work, and 10 minutes to do it right.

                  - So on big aircraft like a 737, the flaps may not move uniformly. They can be adjusted to ensure they do, but apparently not in China. There are "skew sensors" to let the pilot knows things are not correct... really nothing more than a magnet. In any case, a bird came arrived its maiden delivery flight from China and pilot reported exactly that. Investigated, and discovered that not only was the skew sensor wired incorrectly, but there was a pushed pin on the fuselage side harness connection. It's hard to imagine all that happened immediately before China handed the a/c off to Southwest.


                  ... and on and on and on ...

                  • jim morris
                    jim morris  17 hours back

                    No sales in China no future for Boeing

                    • Steven Black
                      Steven Black  18 hours back

                      The current news is that Beoing is discontinuing the A380 Airbus lines,because of (1)It's just too large for most Airports, (2)Too costly in Fueling, (3)A severe lack of passenger's and transport space,and just isn't bringing in enough financial profits to actually keep it in service consistantly along with daily maintenance's.
                      But people are very satisfied with the A380 Airbus itself as it handle's Air Turbalance perfectly and has plenty of space and has never once crashed since being in service, as the only remaining excuses are it's just entirely too big and costly for the company itself presently-so I guess we'll just have to actually wait and see how they fully intend to compete with China and serve it's many clients sufficiently in the coming years.

                      • bert wesler
                        bert wesler  24 hours back

                        And all of this report depends on the long-term viability of China's economy and I'm going to be buying any airplanes pretty soon they're going to be flat busted broke crashed to the ground and gone CCP dead.

                        • Chavdar Naidenov
                          Chavdar Naidenov  24 hours back

                          Boeing creates civilian planes on the same frames it developed for military planes. So Boeing shareholders get dividends both ways - from military planes that threaten China and passenger planes that China buys. And they think the Chinese are stupid and will go on doing this?

                          • Narek Avetisyan
                            Narek Avetisyan  1 days back

                            Seems like Being is facing... a maximum problem.
                            Thank you, thank you. I'll see myself out now.

                            • Truth BeTold
                              Truth BeTold  1 days back

                              If China does not realize they must alter their trade practices their economy will collapse and the travelers will decline sharply.

                              • Bi'er ShenShan
                                Bi'er ShenShan  1 days back

                                Amigo, In your highlighting of the China map... you left TAIWAN out of it. How would you feel if the USA map was left out without Texas? :-) Please CORRECT your mistake.

                                • Omar KHODARY
                                  Omar KHODARY  1 days back

                                  This information is completely wrong on video I recommend for you looking where get this Source of information. It was known Chinese’s airlines have large number of Boeing Fleets because cargo and trade exchange.

                                  • Euro Public Transport
                                    Euro Public Transport  2 days back

                                    Dear Sam,
                                    can you please do a video about the geographic problem of Iran?

                                    • Paul von Hindenburg
                                      Paul von Hindenburg  2 days back

                                      They don't care about jobs they wanted to pander to the dictatorship.

                                      • JEOGRAPHY Songs For Kids

                                        Still a better channel than Bendover Productions.

                                        • Enter Fil
                                          Enter Fil  2 days back

                                          It’s so sad that Embraer was bought by Boeing, Brazil is selling all of its companies

                                          • pagansforbreakfast
                                            pagansforbreakfast  2 days back

                                            Let the computer fly the plane, what could go wrong? Until full command of the aircraft is returned to the flightcrew I'm staying on the ground.

                                            • autohmae
                                              autohmae  23 hours back

                                              When did you last fly ?

                                          • HerrBratwurst
                                            HerrBratwurst  2 days back

                                            Every time I see a video about People saying things about China’s issue with the outside world, it tells me they don’t know China’s main priority.

                                            China’s number 1 priority are it’s people. That’s why they spend so much money building up cities. That’s why they always insists on companies bringing jobs into China, when you have 2billion mouths to feed, this is the only way.

                                            Also, it appeases the people, so they do not go on strikes, making the country unproductive. Which affects other normal people, and when the mob grows bigger, the communist party falls. That’s the real China problem.

                                            You wanna be really cool friends with a Xi Jin Ping?
                                            Create a lot of jobs in China. He’ll be your number one Friend if you can bring in billions of jobs for China.

                                            • HerrBratwurst
                                              HerrBratwurst  15 hours back

                                              @WhalesTasteGreat Foxconn is a Taiwanese company if you don't know that already. And yes, it's an oligarchy that wants to stay in power, which government don't want to stay in power? At least they care about the country more than many other so called Democracies.

                                            • WhalesTasteGreat
                                              WhalesTasteGreat  15 hours back

                                              I doubt the workers at Foxconn would agree with that sentiment.
                                              China is run by an oligarchy that values itself retaining power.
                                              Not that US is any better, just a different sort of oligarchy and fake "democracy".

                                            • HerrBratwurst
                                              HerrBratwurst  16 hours back

                                              @[] you know, when you wanna say something like this you gotta show proofs.

                                            • HerrBratwurst
                                              HerrBratwurst  16 hours back

                                              @ben littlefair well I kind of rounded up about 300million people lol

                                            • []
                                              []  20 hours back

                                              Yeah except for them genociding the uighirs

                                          • SH W
                                            SH W  2 days back

                                            How is Boeing or Airbus going to send their planes to China? Fly them?

                                            • Qinghui Ou
                                              Qinghui Ou  2 days back

                                              correction: Boeing did collaborate with comac but set a very high price that china decided to do the long way.

                                              • Qinghui Ou
                                                Qinghui Ou  2 days back

                                                the number will drop in the future since china had started developing their own plane already check out C919, economic war will eventually end just not in this century.

                                                • Andrew McKay
                                                  Andrew McKay  2 days back

                                                  The Americans can't even build a plan anymore with out a China man involved. They will clone a Boeing and build their own

                                                  • ACADMan
                                                    ACADMan  2 days back

                                                    Mmm...Nah. I'm not overly concerned- Yet. Will keep an eye on the new effort at Chinese aircraft production, though. Give them another 15 years, and call me back.

                                                    • Better With Rum
                                                      Better With Rum  3 days back

                                                      Just because China grounded the 737 first doesn't lend to their credibility. I will NEVER get on a Chinese produced plain.

                                                      • A320 CAT3DUAL
                                                        A320 CAT3DUAL  3 days back

                                                        Simple. GE must cease selling aircraft engines and spares to China.

                                                        See? Easy! NEXT!

                                                        • autohmae
                                                          autohmae  23 hours back

                                                          Might work long term, al though I suspect they will then buy European (maybe Russian?) instead then the following decade China makes aircraft engines.

                                                      • Francisco Neto
                                                        Francisco Neto  3 days back

                                                        USA 🇺🇸 needs to fire 🔥 trump today,otherwise the United States 🇺🇸 will lose it’s ground in world’s economies. Trump is the distraction of America

                                                        • Francisco Neto
                                                          Francisco Neto  3 days back

                                                          Time to disrupt CHINAS economy

                                                          • 罗浩钤
                                                            罗浩钤  3 days back

                                                            I fly 737max once before, left wing starts to over shake after 30 minutes took off, literally worst plane i tried, i miss my DA42 after that

                                                            • 罗浩钤
                                                              罗浩钤  11 hours back

                                                              @WhalesTasteGreat just personally don't like flying Boeings

                                                            • WhalesTasteGreat
                                                              WhalesTasteGreat  15 hours back

                                                              Who wouldn't?
                                                              That's like comparing a semi to a sports car.

                                                          • Mark Fischer
                                                            Mark Fischer  3 days back

                                                            China's Boeing problem. With a huge fleet of Boeing aircraft, China faces the prospect that if the split between the United States and China becomes heated and rancorous enough, the US government could cut China off from spare parts, service updates, and everything else needed from the manufacturer to sustain after sales support. China's fleet of Boeing aircraft could become a total loss.

                                                            • anthony chan
                                                              anthony chan  3 days back

                                                              China should not buy anything from the US at all the way trump treated Huawei and China companies. The END trump will be a BIG LOSER. Time will tell.

                                                              • derek96720
                                                                derek96720  2 days back

                                                                Considering Chinese companies constantly steal the intellectual property of anyone they work with, Trump has been lenient with China.

                                                            • Sven Reuser
                                                              Sven Reuser  3 days back

                                                              sees united states and china, but than continents.
                                                              countries in those continents: am i a joke to you?

                                                              • MaddBuddah
                                                                MaddBuddah  3 days back

                                                                I'm pooping

                                                                • Anand kumar
                                                                  Anand kumar  3 days back

                                                                  Who has guts to sit in China made airplanes and fly, There is no guarantee that they come back alive.....

                                                                  • Kreuzritter Gottes
                                                                    Kreuzritter Gottes  3 days back

                                                                    china is garbage. Tawain forever!

                                                                    • Mike Marley
                                                                      Mike Marley  3 days back

                                                                      Beware the chinaman ,they want to eat every living thing on our planet and every dead thing also.Serpents disguised as worms.

                                                                      • joey saladass
                                                                        joey saladass  3 days back

                                                                        Lul china plane lol

                                                                        • peter yuan
                                                                          peter yuan  3 days back

                                                                          I think China had purposely sabotage the two 737 MAX to make Boeing look bad.

                                                                          • Ming Hu
                                                                            Ming Hu  3 days back

                                                                            Ban Boeing in China to Make America Great Again

                                                                            • Laura O'Chamney
                                                                              Laura O'Chamney  3 days back

                                                                              Nah, Chinese made aircrafts are the worst. They're noisy, unreliable and unsafe. Similarly, other countries like Russia have built their own planes, but they have gone nowhere. Despite some accidents here and there, Boeing aircrafts are still the safest on the planet. According to the latest reports, the average person living in the United States has a 1 in 102 chance of dying in a car crash, compared to a 1 in 205,552 chance of dying as a passenger on an airplane.

                                                                              • goodboy2222
                                                                                goodboy2222  3 days back

                                                                                帝国主义亡我之心不死,所有一切都是围绕颜色革命,颠覆政权为目的,关心你的民主?自由,完全是胡扯!

                                                                                • 崔鱼
                                                                                  崔鱼  3 days back

                                                                                  You forget taiwan province

                                                                                  • Yunfei Liang
                                                                                    Yunfei Liang  3 days back

                                                                                    *PolyMatter files Copyright Claim*

                                                                                    • Christos Perchanidis
                                                                                      Christos Perchanidis  4 days back

                                                                                      You should also mentioned that Russia and China develop jointly a new plane (that Comac one)

                                                                                      • cnccarving
                                                                                        cnccarving  4 days back

                                                                                        mightbe it sounds bad that boeing has to lower price, but same time it will be cheaper thna airbus

                                                                                        then, if same price makes 10 boeing plane versus 6-7 airbus plane then boeing can slice way bigger from the chinese market